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	<title>Comments on: Jesus i Koranen</title>
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		<title>By: Søren Svendsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Søren Svendsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Der er også en mulighed at forfatteren(e) blev påvirket af forskellige kristne sekter der heller ikke mente at Jesus døde på korset. Som fx.

&quot;Along with many in the 2nd century, the Basilidians held that matter was inherently evil. They could not accept that the resurrection of physical human bodies would serve any possible good, so they denied it. Denying a general physical resurrection, they had to deny the physical resurrection of Christ. Furthermore, this obliged them to deny Christ&#039;s crucifixion, instead saying that Simon of Cyrene was crucified in his place.
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We must not deny the importance of this brief historical survey. To begin with, not all of these groups actually denied that Jesus was crucified. Some thought he was, yet downplayed the importance of the physical man, elevating the divine Christ who was supposedly separate. Others claimed that someone else was cunningly switched for Jesus before the crucifixion. What is clear is that they were basing their beliefs on flawed philosophy, not historical knowledge. They rejected the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ simply because it was distasteful to them&quot;
Fra: http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/crucifix.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Der er også en mulighed at forfatteren(e) blev påvirket af forskellige kristne sekter der heller ikke mente at Jesus døde på korset. Som fx.</p>
<p>&#8220;Along with many in the 2nd century, the Basilidians held that matter was inherently evil. They could not accept that the resurrection of physical human bodies would serve any possible good, so they denied it. Denying a general physical resurrection, they had to deny the physical resurrection of Christ. Furthermore, this obliged them to deny Christ&#8217;s crucifixion, instead saying that Simon of Cyrene was crucified in his place.<br />
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We must not deny the importance of this brief historical survey. To begin with, not all of these groups actually denied that Jesus was crucified. Some thought he was, yet downplayed the importance of the physical man, elevating the divine Christ who was supposedly separate. Others claimed that someone else was cunningly switched for Jesus before the crucifixion. What is clear is that they were basing their beliefs on flawed philosophy, not historical knowledge. They rejected the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ simply because it was distasteful to them&#8221;<br />
Fra: <a href="http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/crucifix.htm" rel="nofollow">http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/crucifix.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bare kald mig Chresten ;)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bare kald mig Chresten ;)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muhammed kalder Jesus(Isa)for Messias. De kristne kalder Jesus for bla. Messias og Kristus. Jøderne kalder ikke Jesus for Messias - Jøderne venter den dag idag på Messias.

Men hov!


Hvad praler jøderne med her:

Sura 4:157:
‘…de sagde: “Vi har dræbt Messias, Jesus, Marias søn, Guds udsending” - men de dræbte ham ikke, og de korsfæstede ham ikke. Det forekom dem blot således. De, der er uenige om ham, er i tvivl om den sag. De har ingen viden derom, men kun løse formodninger. De har med sikkerhed ikke dræbt ham.

Hvordan kan det være at jøderne

1) venter på messias? og
2) ikke mener at Jesus er messias? og
3) at jøderne praler med
   a) at de har dræbt ham de venter på? og
   b) at Messias er Jesus, Marias søn?

Jeg mener at det mest oplagte svar er en misforståelse i forfatterens (givetvis Muhammeds) forståelse af Jødernes Messiasforståelse og indholdet i evangelierne.
Hans kone, Khadija var kristen, men har ikke nødvendigvis kendt til hele NT og givetvis blandet en masse sammen med oprindelig pre-islamisk tankegods og jødisk og kristent ditto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muhammed kalder Jesus(Isa)for Messias. De kristne kalder Jesus for bla. Messias og Kristus. Jøderne kalder ikke Jesus for Messias &#8211; Jøderne venter den dag idag på Messias.</p>
<p>Men hov!</p>
<p>Hvad praler jøderne med her:</p>
<p>Sura 4:157:<br />
‘…de sagde: “Vi har dræbt Messias, Jesus, Marias søn, Guds udsending” &#8211; men de dræbte ham ikke, og de korsfæstede ham ikke. Det forekom dem blot således. De, der er uenige om ham, er i tvivl om den sag. De har ingen viden derom, men kun løse formodninger. De har med sikkerhed ikke dræbt ham.</p>
<p>Hvordan kan det være at jøderne</p>
<p>1) venter på messias? og<br />
2) ikke mener at Jesus er messias? og<br />
3) at jøderne praler med<br />
   a) at de har dræbt ham de venter på? og<br />
   b) at Messias er Jesus, Marias søn?</p>
<p>Jeg mener at det mest oplagte svar er en misforståelse i forfatterens (givetvis Muhammeds) forståelse af Jødernes Messiasforståelse og indholdet i evangelierne.<br />
Hans kone, Khadija var kristen, men har ikke nødvendigvis kendt til hele NT og givetvis blandet en masse sammen med oprindelig pre-islamisk tankegods og jødisk og kristent ditto.</p>
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		<title>By: bohemianrhapsody</title>
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		<dc:creator>bohemianrhapsody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeg var i Srinagar i 1996, men anede ikke at hans grav eventuelt var der. Men næste gang...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeg var i Srinagar i 1996, men anede ikke at hans grav eventuelt var der. Men næste gang&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besøgte selv Rozabal i Kashmir sidste sommer:
http://www.mukti4u2.dk/Jesus_Rozabal_Srinagar.htm</description>
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